Teresa (-?-)

#827
     Teresa married Jacobi Dumarse before 1768.

Child of Teresa (-?-) and Jacobi Dumarse

Jacobus Thomas Dumarse

#828, b. 21 December 1768
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      Jacobus Thomas was baptised on 21 December 1768 in Lincolns-Inn-Field, LDN, ENG. He Christened LINCOLNS INN FIELDS RC CHURCH, LONDON. He was the son of Jacobi Dumarse and Teresa (-?-).

Jhon Dummer

#829
     Jhon married Jone Mirphyn on Saturday, 27 January 1562 in Aldermansbury, LDN, ENG.

Jone Mirphyn

#830
     Jone married Jhon Dummer on Saturday, 27 January 1562 in Aldermansbury, LDN, ENG.

John Dummer

#831
     John married Jane Widdon on Monday, 2 February 1643 in London, LDN, ENG.

Jane Widdon

#832
     Jane married John Dummer on Monday, 2 February 1643 in London, LDN, ENG.

John Daniel Dummer

#833
     John married Maria Margaret (-?-) before 1798.

Child of John Daniel Dummer and Maria Margaret (-?-)

Maria Margaret (-?-)

#834, b. before 1778
     Born before 1778.
     Maria married John Daniel Dummer before 1798.

Child of Maria Margaret (-?-) and John Daniel Dummer

Louisa Sarah Dummer

#835, b. 21 January 1798
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      Louisa Sarah was baptised on 21 January 1798 in Whitechapel, MDX, ENG.1 She was the daughter of John Daniel Dummer and Maria Margaret (-?-).

Citations

  1. [S149] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Batch No. C025575.

Richard Dumar

#836
     Richard married Martha (-?-) before 1718.

Child of Richard Dumar and Martha (-?-)

Martha (-?-)

#837, b. before 1698
     Born before 1698.
     Martha married Richard Dumar before 1718.

Child of Martha (-?-) and Richard Dumar

Martha Dumar

#838, b. 28 November 1718
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      Martha was baptised on 28 November 1718 in St Giles-without-Cripplegate, LDN, ENG. She Christened St.GILES Without CRIPPLEGATE, WESTMINSTER, LONDON. She was the daughter of Richard Dumar and Martha (-?-).

Peeter Kay

#839
     Peeter married Mary Dewmore on Monday, 18 January 1655 in Westminster, LDN, ENG.

Mary Dewmore

#840
     Mary married Peeter Kay on Monday, 18 January 1655 in Westminster, LDN, ENG.

Edmund Dummer

#841, b. 28 August 1651, d. 1713
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     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Dummer_(naval_engineer), http://www.bl.uk/eblj/2007articles/article10.html and http://www.xjt60.dial.pipex.com/id38.htm. A detailed account of Edmund's dockyard at Plymouth is given in The New Maritime History of Devon (published mid-1990s).2 In 1651 Edmund Dummer the eldest son of Thomas (1626-1710), a gentleman farmer of Chickhall, North Stoneham, and Joan Dummer, was baptised there on 28 Aug 1651. In 1698 he stated '.. I have been bred up in the service of the navy for near 30 years ever since the year 1668..'
Sent to Tangier as a midshipman extraordinary in 1682, he returned in 1685 with an illustrated journal containing The Viewes and Description of .... remarkable Lands, Cities, Towns & Arsenals in the Mediterranean, their several Planes, and Fortifications, with divers Perspectives of Particular Buildings . He was officially carpenter of the Hampton Court, but Joseph Allin was actually performing the duties in December 1685, when he was under consideration to fill the vacancy of Master Shipwright at Woolwich owing to the death of Thomas Shish.

BL Add Ms 70044 f131 : Kings MS 40
     




     


     




     

To assist the Board of Admiralty in selecting the most suitable officer for this post, the Navy Board supplied them with a summary of the qualifications of the applicants for promotion. Dummer presented the Navy Board with a written account of his own career. He stated that 'he was singled out by the Navy Board for his extraordinary ingenuity to lay down the bodies of the 30 new ships and afterwards sent abroad by the late king for making observations upon all foreign shipping, the effects whereof are now rendered to His Majesty.' Dummer filled the vacancy of First Assistant Master Shipwright at Chatham. Dummer was appointed Assistant Surveyor of the Navy in 1689, and on the death of his old master, Sir John Tippetts, Surveyor of the Navy in 1692, he was promoted to succeed him.

[Samuel] Pepys at this time speaks of him as an 'ingenious young man but said rarely to have handled a tool.' His ship plans show him to have been a good draughtsman.

Cat. Pepyssian MS i 77; Cambridge Pepys lib. Sea MSS 1074, 2934 .

He was instructed to survey the entire southern coastline for potential new dockyard sites, subsequently presenting his first report in 1689. He proposed the siting of a dockyard at Plymouth with dry and wet docks.

BL Sloane MS 3233 : Folger Shakespeare Library Washington DC X.d.451 (100) : Philip MacDougall . Royal Dockyards , 1982 : B.H.Patterson and R.C.Riley. Portsmouth Royal Dockyard - A Short Photographic Record

He oversaw the building of the new naval dockyard at Plymouth, together with enlargement programmes to other naval dockyards, including pioneering a number of innovatory ideas. Most important of these was his insistence on the use of stone and brick for many of the new structures instead of timber as the major building material, as the latter had high maintenance costs as well as being a fire risk. The docks had stepped sides that made it easier for workmen to work beneath the hull of a docked vessel and also allowed rapid and secure erection of staging.

Dummer wished to ensure that naval dockyards were efficient working units that maximised upon available space, this evidenced by the simplicity of his design-layout for Plymouth. He both introduced a centralised storage area and a logical positioning of buildings while his double ropehouse combined the previously separate tasks of spinning and laying while allowing the upper floor to be used for the repair of sails. A further achievement was that of his overseeing the uprighting of the 34-gun St. David after that ship had capsized and partially blocked Portsmouth Harbour in 1691.
     




     

     




     

BL Harlean 4318 : PRO T1/167, No.6. : M Duffy (ed.)The New Maritime History of Devon vol. i,(1991). :BL. Lansdowne MS 847 : Kings 43 : P MacDougall pers. comm.
     




     


     




     

He was suspended from duty in 1698, being accused by John Fitch of several irregularities. Both Fitch and Dummer appeared before the Board of Admiralty in June 1699, when the matter was under investigation. Dummer denied all of Fitch's charges and said he had commenced a suit at law with him. The Admiralty seemed anxious to get rid of Dummer, perhaps for reasons other than those under investigation, and proceeded with the case, instead of awaiting the result of the civil action at law.
     




     


     




     

They again had the accuser and accused before them for further investigation, and on June 23rd resolved to represent to the King that Dummer was a person not fit to be employed longer in the place of Surveyor of the Navy and that they did not think it fit for the good of His Majesty's Service to take off his suspension or the employing of him again. This recommendation received approbation, Dummer was discharged and Daniel Furzer, the Master Shipwright at Chatham, succeeded to the vacancy. The action at law ended in Dummer being awarded £500 damages.
     




     


     




     

John Fitch was a long established supplier of New Forest timber to the navy . His dispute with Edmund Dummer started in 1692 when William Wyatt, the noted Bursledon shipbuilder, borrowed £150 from Dummer (a curiously small amount) by way of a bond drawn on Fitch. Fitch had to sue Dummer to gain payment. When Wyatt went bankrupt Dummer sued him for the money.

HMC House of Lords MSS, NS vol. 3 no.1255: PRO LR 4/1/9 : C10/295/18
     




     



Fitch was awarded a contract to build a new dock at Portsmouth but after complaints (from Dummer and others) about poor workmanship and substandard materials, he was ejected and the work redone. The Navy board successfully sued Fitch for breach of contract . After this Fitch complained to the Admiralty that Dummer had asked for bribes for awarding him Navy contracts. In response, Dummer said Fitch had tried to get him to join an association of suppliers to sell timber at inflated prices to the Navy. Although decided in Dummer's favour he was not reinstated. Dummer sued Fitch and vice versa, but Dummer obtained judgement. Why Dummer was not re-appointed is a mystery but his behaviour was somewhat paranoid and he obviously had problems working with people.

PRO C 5/207/25 :BL Add Ms 70044 f131 ff : PRO C 10/295/18; C5/207/25 :SP 34/31/24B
     




     

Following this, he engaged in various ventures mostly connected (naturally) with shipbuilding. His packet boats to Holland carried freight as well as letters.

In 1709, he built two sixth-rate ships, the Hind and the Swan (12 guns), at Rotherhithe having previously built, in 1704, the Ferret and Weasel (both of 10 guns) in 1704 at Blackwall.

SP 34/1/29 :P Banbury. Ship building of the Thames & Medway 1971. 147

He commenced negotiations with the Post office to establish a Plymouth packets service to the West Indies as war had put an embargo on private ships to the area, based on his experience of already running a packet service to Corunna and Lisbon. Eventually, an agreement was reached in 1702 for Dummer to supply and run 4 packets, to be reimbursed on cost plus basis with Dummer receiving the profits from carrying freight and troops. Dummer guaranteed the postal income but the money actually received never reached its target level.

A contract was agreed for a fixed annual payment from November 1704 for 3 years or 5 if war lasted as long. He was to provide 5 packets at £12500 pa. and he was responsible for the provision of crews. The vessels sailed under letters of marque with captains who had navy commissions. He went into partnership with his brother, Thomas, and they supervised the operation of the ships whilst the other partners, the Mears brothers, handled the trading aspects.

The service didn't reach its target income and the difference was to be deducted from Dummer's allowance but carried over at his request so that after 2 years, his arrears amounted to £5919 and there was no prospect that they could ever be made up . By 1707 Dummer requested a new agreement and his deficiency discharged and as the problems of running such a service were recognised by the Post Office, a new contract was agreed for 5 years from 1708. Five packets and all expenses were to be provided by Dummer for £12K p.a. in war and 8K in peace, and all the revenue except from letters. Edmund Dummer neglected to inform his partners of the new contract and the partnership was terminated in 1709 amidst accusations, by Jacob Mears, of incompetence.


Dummer had insufficient financial support and so borrowed money against the future mail payments so that any moneys received went straight to his creditors. His chief creditor, Nicholas Goodwin went bankrupt in 1710 and John Mead liquidated the service. This also ended in acrimony with Edmund suing both his brother and the Mears. However, soon after Dummer himself was declared bankrupt and died in 1713, reputedly in the Fleet prison.

His widow and daughter petitioned for a pension and in reports thereon, Sergison praised him 'not one in his post ever did any thing like him, the new dockyards at Portsmouth and Plymouth will be lasting monuments of his great skill.'

PRO C 10/389/29 : London Gazette March 1711/12.

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JH Kemble.' England's first Atlantic mail line.' MARINER'S MIRROR 26. 1940. pp. 33-60,185-96 '

     




     

AJ Holland. 'Naval shipbuilding on Hamble river before 1815 '. 1973 MARINER'S MIRROR 49. 23

EWH Fryer. 'Shipbuilding abuses in C17. 'MARINER'S MIRROR 10. 1924. 382

C Knight. 'carpenter' master shipwrights.' MARINER'S MIRROR.18 1932. pp.414-415.

Chester Joseph L. The family of Dummer- - [Boston, Mass.] : 1881 Reprint from the New England Historical and Genealogical Register for July and October, 1881; copy in University of Southampton

HG Barstow . Not only North Stoneham but also. 1995

VCH Hampshire, vol. 3 pp484, 411, 464 , 259

AJ Holland. Buckler's Hard.3 Edmund was baptised on 28 August 1651 in North Stoneham, HAM, ENG.1 He was the son of Thomas Dummer and Joane Newman.1
     Edmund married Sarah (-?-) circa 1679. Edmund aged at an unknown age sent to Tangier as a midshipman extraordinary in 1682.2 Edmund aged at an unknown age an Assistant Master Shipwright at Chatham, Kent, he was instructed to survey the entire coast line between Dartmouth and Falmouth, subsequently presenting his report between 1684 and October 1689.2 Edmund aged at an unknown age returned in 1685 with an illustrated journal containing "The Viewes and Description of .... remarkable Lands, Cities, Towns & Arsenals in the Mediterranean, their several Planes, and Fortifications, with divers Perspectives of Particular Buildings" (now in British Library, Kings MS 40). in 1685.2 Edmund aged at an unknown age assisted in the building of 4 mail boats for the "Harwick Service". circa 1689.2 Edmund aged at an unknown age proposed the siting of a dockyard at Plymouth with dry and wet docks. In 1691 he supervised building work at Plymouth and Portsmouth Dockyards, notably the Great Basin and Great Stone Dock (No. 5) at Portsmouth, which was designed by him and completed in 1698, the first stone dock in a Royal Dockyard in 1691.2 Edmund aged 40 was appointed Surveyor of the Navy on 25 June 1692.2 Edmund aged at an unknown age report on the works at Plymouth, presented to the Navy Commissioners contains a detailed account of the Dockyard and its buildings, most of which were probably designed by him in 1694.2 Edmund aged at an unknown age was Director of Greenwich Hospital and a member of its fabric committee in 1695.2 Between 1695 and 1698 Edmund Dummer MP for Arundel. In 1696 Edmund Dummer Freeman of Southampton. Edmund aged at an unknown age Naval surveys can be seen at the National Maritime Museum National Maritime Museum in 1698. Edmund aged at an unknown age is dismissed from his post as Surveyor following
accusations of bribing by John Fitch, the contractor at Portsmouth in 1699. Edmund aged at an unknown age is contracted to organise a packet service to Spain and the Leeward Islands in 1700.2 Between February 1701 and November 1701 Edmund Dummer MP for Arundel. Between 1702 and 1708 Edmund Dummer MP for Arundel. He was employed by the Post Office for the service to the West Indies between 1702 and 1712.2 Edmund aged at an unknown age built the Grange, Swaythling, a large house at S. Stoneham, possibly to the design of Nicholas Hawksmoor (whom he could have known at Greenwich). "Twelve designs of Mr Dummer's House" were in a sale of Hawksmoor's drawings in 1712 in 1708.2 Edmund aged 58 The London Gazette announces that one of his ships, "The Frankland Packet-Boat, now at Biddiford (sic), will be ready to proceed, wind and weather permitting, for the West Indies, with the letters and packets that shall be ready on the 29th of this month." on 22 March 1710.2 Edmund aged 60 business failed, some of his boats were taken by the French, and Edmund was declared Bankrupt in February 1712.2 Edmund died in 1713 in London, LDN, ENG. Edmund was buried on 8 May 1713 in Holborn, LDN, ENG.

Children of Edmund Dummer and Sarah (-?-)

Citations

  1. [S203] GEDCOM file created by unknown author, 29 Jul 2000 "unknown cd."
  2. [S192] Letter, Michael Dummer to The author, 12 Apr 2000.
  3. [S406] Hampshire RO, online http://calm.hants.gov.uk/

Elizabeth (-?-)

#842, b. before 1570
     Born before 1570.
     Elizabeth married Thomas Seller on Wednesday, 27 September 1589 in Sturminster Marshall, DOR, ENG.1

Citations

  1. [S33] FRY. CBE G S, The Registers of Sturminster Marshall, Dorset.

Sarah (-?-)

#843, d. 1714
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     Sarah married Edmund Dummer, son of Thomas Dummer and Joane Newman, circa 1679. Sarah died in 1714.1 Sarah was buried on 20 February 1713/14 in Westminster, LDN, ENG.1

Children of Sarah (-?-) and Edmund Dummer

Citations

  1. [S203] GEDCOM file created by unknown author, 29 Jul 2000 "unknown cd."

George Blackall

#844, b. before 1681
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     Born before 1681.
     George married Mary Dummer, daughter of Edmund Dummer and Sarah (-?-), on Tuesday, 31 May 1701 in Friday Street, LDN, ENG.

Rev. Ross Ley1

#845, b. circa 1681, d. 4 January 1736/37
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     Born circa 1681.
     Ross married Mary Dummer, daughter of Thomas Dummer and Mary Barling, on Thursday, 14 May 1705 in Queenhithe, LDN, ENG, Ross Ley, Rector of St Matthew, Friday Street, London. One of the brothers of the Hospital of St Catherine.1 Ross was buried after 4 January 1737 in London, LDN, ENG.1 Ross died on 4 January 1736/37; aged 56.

Children of Rev. Ross Ley and Mary Dummer

Citations

  1. [S203] GEDCOM file created by unknown author, 29 Jul 2000 "unknown cd."
  2. [S399] Website: TNA, online http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/, Ref: PROB 11/620.
  3. [S405] Edward Eldridge Salisbury, Pyldren-Dummer Family Memorials.

Mary Dummer

#846, b. 1680
Mary Dummer|b. 1680|p21.htm#i846|Edmund Dummer|b. 28 Aug 1651\nd. 1713|p21.htm#i841|Sarah (-?-)|d. 1714|p21.htm#i843|Thomas Dummer|b. a 1629|p249.htm#i9436|Joane Newman|d. 10 Oct 1665|p249.htm#i9463|||||||
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     Reference: MD 2168. Born in 1680.1 Mary Dummer was the daughter of Edmund Dummer and Sarah (-?-). Mary was christened on 28 July 1680 in Westminster, LDN, ENG.1 She was living on 13 January 1690.2
     Mary married George Blackall on Tuesday, 31 May 1701 in Friday Street, LDN, ENG.

Citations

  1. [S203] GEDCOM file created by unknown author, 29 Jul 2000 "unknown cd."
  2. [S192] Letter, Michael Dummer to The author, 12 Apr 2000.

Mary Dummer

#847, b. 7 March 1739
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      Mary was baptised on 7 March 1739 in St Giles-without-Cripplegate, LDN, ENG. She was the daughter of George Dummer and Mary Tee.
     Mary married, at age 21, William Howes on Sunday, 2 November 1760 in St Giles-without-Cripplegate, LDN.

John Bond

#848
     John married Mary Dummer on Friday, 11 July 1749 in Westminster, LDN, ENG.

Mary Dummer

#849
     Mary married John Bond on Friday, 11 July 1749 in Westminster, LDN, ENG.

William Severy

#850
     William married Mary Dummer on Wednesday, 20 June 1753 in Paul's Wharf, LDN, ENG.

Mary Dummer

#851
     Mary married William Severy on Wednesday, 20 June 1753 in Paul's Wharf, LDN, ENG.

William Howes

#852
     William married Mary Dummer, aged 21 , daughter of George Dummer and Mary Tee, on Sunday, 2 November 1760 in St Giles-without-Cripplegate, LDN, ENG.

Mary Dummer

#853, b. 8 November 1775, d. before 1778
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      Mary was baptised on 8 November 1775 in St Giles-without-Cripplegate, LDN, ENG. She was the daughter of George Dummer and Elizabeth (-?-). Mary died before 1778.

Mary Dummer

#854, b. 6 November 1778
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      Mary was baptised on 6 November 1778 in St Giles-without-Cripplegate, LDN, ENG. She Christened St.GILES Without CRIPPLEGATE, LONDON. She was the daughter of George Dummer and Elizabeth (-?-).

James Eagle

#855
     James married Mary Dummer on Monday, 31 May 1813 in Bermondsey, SRY, ENG.

Mary (-?-)

#856
     Mary married William Dummer before 1814 in Southwark, SRY, ENG.

Children of Mary (-?-) and William Dummer

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